Patch Poll: The Boy Scouts' Ban on Gays

Do you agree with the organization's decision to continue excluding gays?

The Boy Scouts of America has reaffirmed its policy of excluding gays, the Huffington Post reports.

The Scouts said a committee studied the question for two years and decided to stick with the policy. In 2000, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Scouts' right to exclude gays because it's a private organization.

The decision has angered gay and lesbian groups, the Huffington Post reported.

The president of the largest U.S. gay-rights group, Chad Griffin of the Human Rights Campaign, depicted the Scouts' decision as "a missed opportunity of colossal proportions."

"With the country moving toward inclusion, the leaders of the Boy Scouts of America have instead sent a message to young people that only some of them are valued," he said. "They've chosen to teach division and intolerance."

But how will parents react

If you have a son in Scouts, will you consider taking him out of Scouts?

If you have a son too young for Scouts, will this decision stop you from enrolling him in Scouts?

Give you answer in the comments box below.

bulldogger July 21, 2012 at 02:49 PM
Steven Markham 9:19 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012 You see, Steven, I'm posting a comment that's is counter to what your opinion is and you're calling me a "Fool". You probably wouldn't like the way I dress either or the way I talk, but you know what......that's what makes us all different, thank goodness. Just think about it, Steven......if the Boy Scouts, or even Scott's favorite eating place were to come out and change their philosophy, would not that be the height of hypocrisy? You know, everybody don't think alike and maybe when you grow up, you'll come to realize that.
Scott Tewell July 21, 2012 at 03:21 PM
bulldogger 10:49 am on Saturday, July 21st, the year of our Lord two thousand and twelve, Decatur, Georgia, USA, Earth, Solar System, Universe. Thanks so much for setting us straight. You are right that Me and Steven are only younguns. In fact, I am still in diapers (and I need a change!). We have only a fraction of the vast life experience and wisdom that you do. Please enlighten us with the other things we can do to better ourselves, oh master.
Debbie D. July 21, 2012 at 03:46 PM
I grew up with parents that wanted me to interact with all types of people which meant different races, religions, walks of life, different levels of education and also the gay community. I was taught to appreciate the individual person so personally I couldn't care less if you are Jewish/Muslim/Catholic, etc, gay/lesbian/straight/celebrate young/old/middle aged, from USA/China/Brazil etc. What I care I care about is the quality of the person heart and character. I hate to think of of the truly wonderful and some not so wonderful people though out my 49 years that I would have missed if I had a personal ban on Gays in my own life.
taxus July 21, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Boy scouts aren't banned from homosexuals. Declared homosexuals are banned from membership. It's a kind of "don't ask, don't tell" policy similar to the US military's a few years back. For over one hundred years, Boy Scouts has been an outstanding, if imperfect for some, organization.
mark July 22, 2012 at 12:10 AM
Wow Taxus... Thanks for that explanation...you are deep!
Bob White July 23, 2012 at 02:33 PM
Back in the 70's when I was just starting (soon ended) boy scouts one "leader" chose to molest me. Wasn't much fun.
Lisa Cohen July 23, 2012 at 02:48 PM
that's horrible bob....though pedophilia and homosexuality are two entirely different subjects. seems when a pedophile is convicted, molester is generally a heterosexual, often married person. at least from what i have read and seen on a personal level.
bulldogger July 23, 2012 at 03:44 PM
@Scott Tewell 11:21 am on Saturday, July 21, 2012 bulldogger 10:49 am on Saturday, July 21st, the year of our Lord two thousand and twelve, Decatur, Georgia, USA, Earth, Solar System, Universe. WOW, Star Wars fan, eh? Maybe even "A Dark Knight" Fan. May the force be with you, Scott.......there's a whole army of folks that happen to think differently.......and you know what? You ain't gonna change their way of thinking with your little "Boycott" and you're sure not gonna change Truett Cathy.
Randall J Stevens February 17, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Let me tell you about a few well known homosexuals. John Wayne Gacy, Jeffery Dahmer. Enough said.
Randall J Stevens February 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Are you serious? I guess Dahmer and Gacy were completely innocent individuals that were framed because they were gay right?
Randall J Stevens February 17, 2013 at 10:34 PM
I'm sorry to burst your bubble on this one, but any attraction to the opposite sex = homosexuality. Plus there is a huge difference between child molesters and pedophiles. Child molesters target children in the age ranges of 10-17, pedophiles target children under 10. If you are going to smear the name of an organization that has included upstanding individuals such as: John F. Kennedy, Harrison Ford, Bill Gates, Alberto Salazar, Merlin Olsen, Harrison Salisbury, Gerald Ford, H. Ross Perot, Henry Louis Aaron (AKA Hank Aaron), Steven Spielberg, and Neil Armstrong, at least use the correct terminology.
Randall J Stevens February 17, 2013 at 10:51 PM
You forgot to add: Drag Queen, Chihuahua Care, Accessorizing, and Manicuring merit badges.
Decaturette February 18, 2013 at 02:07 AM
And the "leader" was probably a married father and church goer considered to be an upstanding member of his community. Pedophilia is a crime, no matter what your sexual orientation. Homophobia does not protect children from pedophiles. In fact, it gives a false sense of security.
steve tenace February 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Rosannadanna - Sorry gal, "Currently, there is no scientific consensus about the specific factors that cause an individual to become heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual—including possible biological, psychological, or social effects of the parents' sexual orientation." ~~ American Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, and National Association of Social Workers Do you also want to attempt to discredit or dismiss the APA too?
steve tenace February 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Catrina – your personal views are in err or inaccurate at best. A male child molester who molests a young boy is a homosexual. Not all gays are child molesters. However all child molesters who molest children of the same sex are homosexual – married or not. It is this type of homosexual that fathers of young boys in the scouts are rightfully concerned about - and want to keep them as far away from their sons as possible. Sandusky is not a “Pedophilic married heterosexual” as you assert, he is a homosexual pedophile who happens to be married – and now in prison where he belongs. How many others like him want to join the BSA? Good question – but the question relevant to the topic we’re discussing now is how many openly homosexual men that are closet pedophiles will want to join the scouts if the bad is lifted?
steve tenace February 18, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Oh I dont know, ...a father of young boys maybe? Judging by your cute yet clueless little photo Lisa Cohen you dont appear to qualify.
steve tenace February 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM
The 2000 Supreme Court case ruled 5-4 in the BSA’s favor centered on the institutions core values of adhering to Christian principles. If the determination of admitting homosexuals is transferred to the local level, these principles will no longer be a core value. If we don’t think lawsuits, test cases, de facto recruitment and affirmative action will not follow the possible adoption of the policy as it was proposed; and if we think the vast homosexual rights lobby will finally leave the Scouts alone if the policy is changed, we do not understand the drive of the political, moral - and even “religious” left - such as the Apostle Mena Johnson. Despite their lofty rhetoric, these homosexual activists aren’t genuinely interested in “equality.” Nothing has ever prevented the creation of an equivalent Scouting group that specifically celebrates whatever values, or lack thereof, are currently fashionable on the left. It’s obvious to me that such a group would attract few members, so instead of building something on their own, the goal has been to infiltrate and destroy from within traditional organizations that engage in character formation. Whether the BSA admits gays on a national level or it collapses altogether, it doesn’t matter to them Either way will work toward eliminating a constant reminder that some still believe their conduct is wrong or even sinful. What they want is for everyone and every organization to view them as ‘normal’.
steve tenace February 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM
I doubt you ever supported the BSA in the first place Rachel Hunter. Go ahead and drop your "support" and I'll take your place and increase increase it!
steve tenace February 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM
As young boys go through scouting, maturing from childhood to adolescence to being a well developed young man, many will feel the uncertainty or doubt of their developing masculinity somewhere in this process; and this is exactly where scouting has helped thousands of young boys mature into fully developed heterosexual men. The homosexual "troop leader" will argue of course that this young boy "IS" a homosexual and that he should be the one to "counsel" him and guide him through this confusion, saving him years of frustration and anguish by helping him "accept his homosexuality" early in life. Then were faced with the battle between this misguided homosexual and the heterosexual leader that sees nothing wrong with the boy, and in many ways sees himself in him just as much as the homosexual believes he does. The homosexual agenda will continue to push for laws like what has been passed in California, claiming it is "unhealthy and dangerous" to attempt to counsel this young man in his heterosexuality, and that the heterosexual is being bigoted and a "homophobe", and must be prevented from seeking counseling for their sons. I can imagine the laws they would push for next! Hey, I’ll bet you the APA is going to start defending pedophiles next, how much you want to bet? Anyone game for that one?
Lisa Cohen February 19, 2013 at 12:58 AM
what a clueless and ignorant remark steve. i have a 23 yr old heterosexual son who was raised by myself and my best friend, a gay man (the heterosexual father of my son chose to drink himself to death..you know how those heteros are). you obviously don't know me. nor do you have the intelligence to know the difference between homosexuality and pedophilia.
Lisa Cohen February 19, 2013 at 01:09 AM
wow the influx of ignorant, bigoted anti-homosexual comments are appalling. i love living in decatur and can't help but thing these narrow minded trolls don't live here. i have amazing neighbors whose sexual orientations, nationalities and races are diverse and accepted. the character of a person is what's important. i'm a single mom who raised my son with a gay man...we would go to gay men's chorus concerts for christmas as well as synagogue services, soccer games, school plays, etc. amazingly, my son likes girls..guys the gay wasn't contagious. i'm shocked that there are people like this commenting on this thread here...most gay-bashing comes from a place of fear and insecurity...like the anti-gay politicians who eventually "come out" after yrs of self loathing and shame, i'm here with love and support when these fear based haters come to terms with who they really are.
steve tenace February 19, 2013 at 01:19 PM
There are many less homosexuals then there are heterosexuals.
Decaturette February 19, 2013 at 04:07 PM
Unfortunately, many community blogs are going the way of talk/hate radio and talk/hate TV forums. The blog medium is quickly becoming dysfunctional and losing readers. I wish Patch would moderate more. Decatur Metro does a much better job of moderating out disrespectful, rude, or hateful comments.
steve tenace February 19, 2013 at 04:35 PM
I agree, Lisa is disrespectful, rude, and full of hateful comments, using terms such as ignorant and bigoted.
taxus February 19, 2013 at 04:45 PM
Ralph How do I turn this thing off? I'm getting an email every five minutes about a cat fight. I'd hate to put Patch on Spam but that's an option right now.
Lisa Cohen February 19, 2013 at 05:24 PM
hi ralph...looks like we have a troll here. kinda shocked at the hateful comments that began flowing into my inbox from this 7 month old thread. perhaps you can disable comments so we don't keep getting them.
Ralph Ellis February 19, 2013 at 05:56 PM
Taxus, let me check on that. I think it's something you'll need to do yourself by changing the settings of your user status on Patch.
Ralph Ellis February 19, 2013 at 06:01 PM
The comments on this article are now being moderated before publication.
Debbie D. February 19, 2013 at 07:37 PM
Thank you for moderating!
Lisa Cohen February 19, 2013 at 08:49 PM
thanks Ralph!


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