What Should Go Here? Old TV Repair Shop

This is one of many empty storefronts in Avondale Estates. Do you have an idea about what kind of business you'd like to see there?

You may have overlooked this empty storefront in Avondale Estates, right next to on East College Avenue.

A television repair shop used to operate there, but it's been vacant for quite a while.

What kind of business would you like to see moving into this space?

About this column: Every week or so, we'll post a picture of a vacant store or lot in Decatur and Avondale Estates. You can tell us what you think should replace the empty space. Know of an empty building we should highlight? E-mail ralph.ellis@patch.com.

Avon Dale June 12, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Why not just keep it lame? hehe http://keep-avondale-estates-lame.org
Ms. June 12, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Now THAT would be awesome.
Nick June 12, 2012 at 05:55 PM
A bike shop, wait, bike shoppe!
Mike Easterwood June 12, 2012 at 07:24 PM
I love it! Thank you for telling it true! By the way, Avondale is itching to spead it's lamness by annexing adjoining commercial properties. You know what a good job they have done with the properties within the city, well just wait till they expand their vision!!
Ms. June 12, 2012 at 07:31 PM
I'm sorry but that website isn't completely factual. It fails to note the holes and chunks of paint missing from the lovely Tudor facade, as well as the 30 year old AC units hanging out of the windows. Include those, and it would be a little closer to accurate.
Avon Dale June 12, 2012 at 07:47 PM
<-----Looks in vain for the "like" button, Mike and Ms. ;-D
po June 12, 2012 at 08:38 PM
It's pretty easy to sit back and complain, but y'all need to direct your complaints to the right people - the people who own the PRIVATE property you find so darn lame. They are the ones that refuse to do anything about the sorry state of their property. Easy to beat up on the City, but there is only so much the City can do. Go read the City ordinances and state and federal law (including the bankruptcy code which applies to much of the property that is currently underdeveloped) and you'll figure that out. And if the City put the hammer down, who here would be the first to complain about Avondale not being "business friendly." Ah, cake and eating it too sob story of the property owning classes. The Tudor Village blows because a bunch of out of state professionals don't want to pay to do anything to fix it up. So it decays . . . you want your tax dollars to buy it up and fix it? Write the City, but I doubt many of you do. You think fingers snap and all is well. See, property rights . . . they include the right to not care what your neighbors think so long as you pay your tax bills and keep in line with the letter of the law. The City could fight them, but then that would probably get expensive . . . because landlords don't like to pay for much of anything and tenants, especially in a down economy, can be hard to come by. So what would like to see happen . . . besides getting a few chuckles off a lame joke.
Ms. June 12, 2012 at 09:16 PM
@Po- "you want your tax dollars to buy it up and fix it?" Completely transparent and false argument, no one has suggested anything of the sort. There's nothing "lame" about exposing hypocrisy. The annexation was done under the guise of making Avondale beautiful and welcoming, when it was nothing more than a tax grab. The reason provided for annexation was the visual of the gateway to Avondale, so it's perfectly reasonable to note they didn't feel compelled to do anything about the GIGANTIC property falling apart at the seams that they already had under their belt. But most of us saw it for what it actually was, a big ole' gimmie gimmie gimmie, with nothing in return.
Bob White June 12, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Yes! A bike shop!
Ms. June 12, 2012 at 10:08 PM
Your constant mentioning of her name, even on stories that have nothing to do with your beef with her, seems a little weird and obsessive. You guys disagree, but no need to make it intensely personal. Neighbors should be able to shake hands after a dust up, unless there has been a murder or something equally egregious of that nature. I'm not sure why you even brought up her name over here on a completely different story. I guess you were trying to be funny, but it reads malicious. Just let it go...
bulldogger June 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM
You know what I'd like to see? I would like to see an Avondale High School Sports Museum with books, newspaper articles, magazine articles, game films, Yearbooks, school newspapers from it's beginning through the Nineteen Sixties. I would like to see all those class rosters and students who would be willing to talk about their experiences, what they did in and out of class. We would need alumni volunteer men and women and students who are interested in this Unpaid volunteerism. We would need carpenters, electricians, A/C Service Mechanics, Directors, planners, admin. assts., Camera experts, Computer Experts, folks to clean the facility on a daily basis and accountants to keep up with all of the costs of running such a facility. We'd have to have a Wi - Fi Facility and propably a lot of money coming from alumni and the alumni coming themselves to work part time in the facility. Also, we would need donations of all the things mentioned earlier to display. Cabinet Makers would have to design and build the shelves and display pieces needed and an interior designer to place everything in the right place. In order to fund the museum, a small donation would have to be charged per visit, or perhaps we would have an annual fee that would allow access anytime.. Of course, you'd have to have outside help, cutting the grass, raking leaves, cleaning trash from the property, making repairs to the structure, painting, etc. Trophies removed from the old AHS s/b remv. & kept here to
FM Fats June 13, 2012 at 02:16 PM
I don't tyhink a Varsity Jr. would make Leo and the gang at Skip's very happy.
Roger June 13, 2012 at 09:48 PM
@po - that's the whole point. "there is only so much the City can do"? How about enforcing the very codes and ordinances you reference. That would be a good start. The City hasn't done crap. At least make a passive attempt to "put the hammer down". "Fingers snap"? That area has been an eyesore for years! The fact that Downtown Decatur, and the City of Decatur for that matter, is thriving down the street while Avondale is in the shape its in is an embarrassment and an indictment on both sides - the people who own the and PRIVATE property and the City. For whatever reason, the City apologists don't have thick skin when it comes to taking any criticism regarding this matter.
Frank English June 14, 2012 at 07:13 AM
Some sort of cool place to eat or a starbucks... NOW to the folks who think we annexed E. College for the money.... You don't know much about Avondale or the people who live here. We ain't RICH , but we ain't Broke..Our debt is small! We don't need the money that's gonna come in, sure it will help with the redesign and upkeep the new area , but if you think we have been huddled in a corner and saying ....ooooooh just wait till we get that $39,999.oo in new revenue or what ever it will be, you have lost it. What we want is a input and say in what our front door to our city looks like. It really comes down to this people moved Avondale for a reason ,even those outside our city limits. It must have been something nice about the place... and yes it cost money to provide nice streets, police and Govt. As for me I don't make over 35K yet I gladly pay the city of A.E. over $800 a year for taxes... its that or live in the forgotten area outside..... I say "Get on Board" and support us.
Mike Easterwood June 14, 2012 at 04:20 PM
Gee Frank, do you really believe what you posted? I think the point of criticism is YOUR input gave you what you have now. Just ride down the street and see what is really there, NOT what you want to be there. My and others point is that the 'input' is not to successful. They say acceptance it the first thing necessary for a recovery. So accept that the annexed properties looked no worse than your city center. Now what is your idea? More of the same? Or something else? The lame comment is spot on. And why in the world would someone support ideas that have been utter failures?
po June 14, 2012 at 05:14 PM
How do you know a passive attempt to put the hammer down hasn't been made and rejected by the property owners? The next step would be to begin the code enforcement process. If that process is challenged (as most suspect it would be), fighting the landowners would cost the City money in time and, more expensively, legal fees. Property battles can go on for a long time, property being what it is in the US. I'm not a City apologist. The area has been an eye sore since I moved to Avondale 12 years ago - and I've lived in and dealt with all that is the commercial area for years. And I've made the same arguments in publicly and privately regarding Code enforcement. Once you understand the players involved, however, you learn that it's not quite that simple. Out of state landlords with money but who don't really care and developers in bankruptcy controlling a large part of downtown visible from the main drags (bordered by another large tract that's for sale) make things rather difficult. The bankruptcy will come to an end sometime. Hopefully sooner rather than later. That property will be sold, hopefully to someone who's also going to purchase and develop the former Fenner Dunlop facility. A new downtown will be developed. Change will come. It just takes a little time. Let's Keep Things Lame, however, needs to offer some solutions, perhaps buy and redevelop some property downtown, rather than just point out the obvious that the current situation blows.
Hugh Simpson June 14, 2012 at 06:12 PM
As a reporter for Patch is it not true the new Publix shopping center will take in the Ray's TV?
Mike Easterwood June 14, 2012 at 06:24 PM
Hugh, why not ask Ray? At Ray's Indian Originals. I am sure he can enlighten you about that property. And PO, I think the Lame and Blame contingent is pointing out that those in charge do not seem to have a clue. They think coming down on owners will get good tenants to move in. Let me suggest that there is something else at play. Years of voting NO on every thing have taken the toll. No what is in Avondale is what was apparently wanted. Just as what is in Decatur is what is wanted. The NO contingent wants nothing and that is what they get. It is really quite simple.
po June 14, 2012 at 08:56 PM
My understanding is that the developer that was going to put in the Publix is the developer in bankruptcy and that the Ray's TV property was going to be part of that development. It is possible that for many years Avondale voted No, that was certainly the story when I moved here 12 years ago. But that hasn't been the case for quite some time. The Publix development discussions began over 6 years ago I believe. Although I'm sure some will disagree, the City tried really hard (I'd say almost bent over backwards) to get that development to happen. It almost did, thus the erector set building, but then came the crash. Many currently in charge have a clue and are doing their best to make something happen again. Let's Keep Avondale Lame isn't making that job any easier . . .
Mike Easterwood June 14, 2012 at 09:17 PM
PO, you are correct about the developer, but you might want to find out about the Ray's property. I have spoken with Ray and it is not my place to describe what is going on. But he can update you if he wishes. Now, regarding who has a clue and why things are the way they are, I am going to disagree with you on that front. I call what the city and developer did as dreaming. It is painfully obvious to me, knowing a little of the back story and something about the market, that the concept was doomed under all but the most optimistic scenarios. Now someone could possible enter the deal at a much lower basis, but the market has moved further away. I knew based on what was paid for the land, that the project had no chance. Maybe at a much lower basis something will happen, but the reality of a difficult market makes anything problematic. Obviously, you know that satire, even with a lot of truth is meant to prod and make people think. By all measures, Avondale should have a thriving commercial district. Now the question is why does it not have a thriving district? What fates conspired to make the district as you see? My opinion is that the reality is self inflicted. It is self imposed. It is self ordained. And why should anyone make it easier on those in charge? The lame charge fits, sorry, for that but thinking about expanding your reach seems to be totally inappropriate based on the leaders performance.
Hugh Simpson June 15, 2012 at 04:55 AM
This is getting to be a pain in the ass having to sign in with Facebook and then REWRITE again what I just wrote! Guys in talking to my friend Clay the city manager it is my understanding a NEW developer has been approved by the bankruptcy court in the last month and if they stay with already APPROVED plans by the city's architects then they will not have to resubmit plans. I learned this from one of the architects.
Emma Harger June 15, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Could we please keep this discussion free of swearing? We all enjoy a good debate every now and then, but this is a family site, so no swearing, please.
Hugh Simpson June 15, 2012 at 02:44 PM
Sorry that offended you Emma.
po June 15, 2012 at 03:02 PM
Glad to hear about the court approving a new developer. It would be nice if the new developer took a look at the previously approved plans. IMHO, the prior developer's plans had several issues. And there now is a large tract of land north of the property which could possibly be incorporated into any development. The time for considering a major reconfiguration of downtown Avondale Estates would seem to be now.
Emma Harger June 15, 2012 at 03:10 PM
It's OK, Hugh--just this is a family site, so we gotta keep the language under control, even if sometimes logging into different comment interfaces can be annoying!
Mike Easterwood June 15, 2012 at 04:24 PM
Things could have changed, but the Ray's site was NOT fully owned by the developer when it filed bankruptcy. That is why I thought you might check with the mortgagee. (Not the Bank but the previous sellers of the property) I would guess something has been worked out if it is moving forward, or maybe not. It would be interesting to see. If I run into Jonathan, at Ray's I will find out.
Lauren June 16, 2012 at 11:39 PM
I love the bike shop idea!!! If we had one I would turn into a shop rat - no pun intended, keepavondalelame.org
Rebecca June 18, 2012 at 09:36 PM
Keep Avondale Lame is just about the funniest thing I've read. keep up the good work and keep posting!
Kari Rheney July 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM
I totally agree, but would love to see some other years added, at least through the 70's. I am a '76 grad and some of my old classmates, along with some older classmates, have been very active in supporting the AHS sports programs in the past several years. Some of us 70's classmates have talked about what we might could do with all the awards through the years, along with the "Flying A". I would, and could probably speak for a few others, love to participate in such a venture, if we could get it together. It is a wonderful idea!
Keith August 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM
skips prices don't make me happy.


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